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Posted on 11-25-19, 05:13 am (rev. 1 by Thierry on 11-25-19, 05:15 am)
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Ever since I applied for admin, I haven't had time to spare so I've accomplished pretty much nothing. Which's ironical considering before I got into my current school I had loads of free time, to the point I had nothing to do. Oh well.

One thing that takes no extra time is discussing things, which's something we can do.


So. We have had several calls to do something about the CR in the past, but nobody was able to take ahold of the project. To be frank, there are two things that would stall the project even with all the motivation we could muster:

-nobody is invested, because this "project" has virtually no identity. people are only compelled to work on it because it's there.
the hack has nothing to show for itself: there is no good thread summing up its progress, its advantadges and the general to-do list. it's either a blurry mess or just up in the air.
which leads to my second point:

-the way the project is managed is.. bad.
a lot more stuff is up in the air. there were a bunch of suggestions, ranging from what music should be used in the game to what ASM hacks should be used in the hack. all of that was left to rot. that's not acceptable by any standards of what would be a project actually ran by an invested party.
for example, a music thread was made with an envisioned "ASM hack that would let us use streamed music directly". it became a collection of music candidates that maybe would work out. eventually as they piled up it had no point to be anymore. there's hardly any point just borrowing other games' music either remixes make sense, but if you want to hear the music straight from other games that bad.. just play those games.

the resources given are far from ideal. for example, the tilesets are honestly restricted. it's not easy to make them, but the maker of a tileset has to design it with expansion in mind or else you'll be hitting short ends rather quick.


I'm not here only to criticize. I'm laying the groundwork for some changes we can make happen, if there's any interest at all. I personally wouldn't mind if the project was discarded; if need be, we can compile whatever work was done into a smaller project to send it off.


ed: that kinda turned into a rant; point is, if you have any feedback regarding this I'm open hear your input.
Posted on 11-25-19, 07:49 am
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I think the best way to approach this would be like any giant collab project there have been through out the past, it takes many working parts but most of all for someone to help guide the vision/goal.

Right now we know what not to do when it comes to handling projects like these and if you ask me, it involves throwing out all this past work and starting from scratch again.
Like you said the project managing is bad, there are too many conflicting ideas, and as the saying goes "a camel is a horse designed by a committee".

Posted by Thierry
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-nobody is invested, because this "project" has virtually no identity. people are only compelled to work on it because it's there.

This is essentially the biggest problem, besides the obvious of having the community make levels, what's the real goal here?
Typically people make the blue print first before doing any actual building.

However, unlike in the past we're better equiped with tools and knowledge than we ever have before. We've definitely came a way and learned a thing or two from experience with things like Newer or just from growing up, and I do believe there's still a little intrest in this project because of that.

We just have to figure out where to go

If this was a call to action it was a very good one tbh, I'm more than willing to lend a hand in this even if it turns out to be a very small handful of us.

(Also sorry about any weird sounding sentences I need sleep)

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Posted on 11-25-19, 04:33 pm
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I've posted a couple levels for it in the original thread. I think you should ask MarioFanatic64 for it and we can try to revive it. I wouldn't mind making a few more stages for the game and I'd like to know what it looks like myself
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Posted on 11-25-19, 05:50 pm (rev. 1 by  Arisotura on 11-25-19, 05:51 pm)
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7. bury it
8. fart on it
9. do both

your pick.


more seriously, I don't think it's worth keeping this ghost alive, especially given the current overall activity level of NSMBHD, as well as its status (hi almost-always-dead board owner).

the CR is like SMG2.5 in that it has existed for ages, as a concept, but never got anything serious done beyond a bit of a base.


I hate to be a downer tho, so, this is going to be simple.

you want the CR to be an actual thing? form an actual team.

'community remix' can't really happen when there's hardly any community left.
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Posted on 11-25-19, 07:52 pm (rev. 1 by  KingYoshi on 11-25-19, 07:52 pm)
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Posted by Arisotura
'community remix' can't really happen when there's hardly any community left.

Posted on 11-25-19, 08:45 pm
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no, it doesn't have to be 'the original community', but there has to be a team.
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Posted on 11-25-19, 09:48 pm
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Yea, I know. I was joking. I hope there's enough people for the team.
Posted on 11-26-19, 12:32 am
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It'd be a little while for me. I hardly have any spare time apart from work, school and responsibilities, and I'm already helping other people with their hacks. But yeah, I totally agree with Arisotura. Make a discord and form a team if you think we can form together and get some work done. I'd be willing to join it

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Posted on 11-26-19, 11:27 pm
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Pretty much
If we're gonna do it, then let's do it.

Otherwise send it off into the sunset

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Posted on 12-05-19, 07:21 pm
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alright, I'll make a simple call. if anybody's up to actually invest themselves into this long-term, manifest yourselves shortly. otherwise, the Community Remix will go straight to the archives.


if you cannot afford the time to work on it, please refrain. we can't take empty promises, and considering all the replies this thread got, there is nobody honestly interested.

in any case, if you want to work on a collaborative project, it doesn't need to be this one. you'd be better off making a project you can actually manage, where you can recruit people you want to work with.


that aside, does someone want me to compile the few levels done into a playable patch? I might throw in some extras, because why the fuck not. might as well make it mildly interesting to play.
Posted on 12-05-19, 08:09 pm
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I'm down to help you out

Maybe not as big and grand as imagined but we gotta release something
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Posted on 12-05-19, 11:08 pm
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I want to help, but college life exists

I could maybe throw in a few MvsL levels, I have fun designing those.

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Posted on 12-06-19, 12:25 am
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If I have any free time I can make a stage or two. Already posted a couple from a year ago
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Posted on 12-06-19, 03:44 am
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considering the minuscule project scale, I reckon we should keep it down to just singleplayer. I'm not sure how I feel about starting a multiplayer campaign. you could do it better if you wanted in your own hacks with ASM, tilesets and whatnot.

I'll compile what we already have, you're free to add on to it if you feel like it. a couple more levels is nice, but I'll be frank.. it makes little difference on the on the long haul.

I've thought this over, and I'm willing to start processing any progress we have and archiving the CR section shortly. I'm not going to let this pend much longer so if you want to contribute, it has to be now.

sorry for this, I want to get this done fast if possible to tie loose ends.
Posted on 12-06-19, 10:20 am
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MvsL could be nice, but if Ndymario is the only one participating in that part, it might be a bit useless for a community remix.
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