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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:01 pm
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 MoleI do things sometimes  Karma: 983 Posts: 340/361 Since: 08-07-17 |
i dont think i said anything thatd indicate i think the board should be archived in this thread earlier but to clarify i do feel the board serves a long term purpose and that theres not really anything to gain from locking it up
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:01 pm, deleted by Thierry: offtopic
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:02 pm
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☭ coffee and cream
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I haven't read all the thread, but I want to add one thing re: moving to Discord
keep in mind that Discord servers aren't searchable at all from outside and even when you're in (which implies finding/getting a link), Discord's search isn't all that great a while ago I wanted to track down Explos (to ask him about the CoinKiller repo) and I had to go through 3 different servers personally I don't think one is necessarily better than the other, or that they should be mutually exclusive. the advantage of the board is the permanence it offers, the possibility to organize stuff in threads and keep the important stuff in places where it doesn't get lost (in theory). the advantage of Discord is that it's more dynamic for conversation, kind of like the old IRC. _________________________ Kuribo64 - zrghij |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:04 pm (rev. 1 by
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☭ coffee and cream
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Posted by nr00t how about we turn the whole thing into a general chat and gaming forum fuck it let's revive 1010101010101lamers under the ABXD umbrella too, and give it its own derpfork and make xkitten and super-toad admin lmfao mid 2016 was... interesting also hi Jamie are you having fun with your little comments on the melonDS blog? _________________________ Kuribo64 - zrghij |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:06 pm (rev. 2 by
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huh, when was that
remind me i feel like i done something but i don't remember when (nor if it was incriminating) shrug |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:06 pm
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☭ coffee and cream
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:09 pm (rev. 1 by
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first i've heard of it
i haven't even tried doing that, would have assumed it would autobanned me for putting shit like that in there oh well, you'll only hear what you wanna hear so i'm not gonna refute it. not like i have any way of proving or disproving anything |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:11 pm
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この記号は… 解読できないよ…
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Guys, stop. This offtopic chatter is getting out of hand.
I won't delete it but please take this to PMs or wherever else. |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:18 pm
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☭ coffee and cream
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sorry.
anyway, I realized there's also stuff like the wiki (and specialized shit like the sprite database). these are definitely worth keeping. for the rest, I don't have much to say. I think, if Thierry feels comfortable with sysadmin/PHP/etc stuff, it might be worth asking Dirbaio to give them the keys, seeing as Dirbaio isn't very active at all. _________________________ Kuribo64 - zrghij |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:25 pm
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 Super KoopaThat MvL Hacker  Karma: 1654 Posts: 818/831 Since: 04-11-15 |
Posted by Thierry Posted by Keeper Posted by nr00t Like Thierry said, though, there seems to be a not-so-minuscule number of people - two of which are on staff - who are actively campaigning for the site's permanent archival Okay, to anyone reading this, what's your thoughts on the board staying open? What are your gripes with the idea? I believe that the board and Discord can co-exist. I recognize the "staying power" the board has, and I don't think it should all be archived. This is how I would do it if I could wave a wand and everything works: 1. Archive chat forums: "General Chat", "Computers, Programming and Technology", and "Featherland". General conversation not related to DS modding is better suited to be in the Discord because...well it's a chat app :p. This would keep the board only focused on DS modding. 2. "Link" the modding forums between here and Central. This would involve some plugin trickery, but I don't think it's anything impossible. This would solve the problem of the visibility of a Discord server, where a bot could relay messages sent in the equivalent forum channel in Central over here. For example, if I made a post in the help forum channel on Discord, it would create a new thread here copying over what was said. Of course, this link would be bi-directional. So if someone were to reply in the thread here, it would be relayed back to the thread. _________________________ Here's my MvL Hacking thread Consider joining the NSMB DS Hacking Discord Server! Also, be sure to check out the new wiki! #HakingNoMore |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:29 pm (rev. 1 by
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General Chat is the one non-(NSMB)DS related forum I'd rather keep either way... after all, the introductions thread is there, and some other (useful) things probably.
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:31 pm
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☭ coffee and cream
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I wouldn't be in favor of completely removing the offtopic forums, but maybe that's me being used to the old boards.
however, the board ought to have a clear link to Discord imo (which it already does, I'm dumb) as for bridging the board and Discord: that may get spammy on the board, even with some feature to coalesce posts from the same user. I don't think it is a good idea to attempt bridging communication media that function differently. _________________________ Kuribo64 - zrghij |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:35 pm (rev. 1 by
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 Red Cheep-cheepUnfortunately, where there is light, there is dark. Where there's a Star, there's a Ztar!  Karma: 557 Posts: 190/215 Since: 02-02-24 |
I'm not really sure if it might be a good idea to archive the off-topic forums though, there will be always people that might find useful information even in those, and there can always be some space for non-related NSMB hacking stuff
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:39 pm
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Super Koopa That MvL Hacker Karma: 1654 Posts: 819/831 Since: 04-11-15 |
Posted by Arisotura
as for bridging the board and Discord: that may get spammy on the board, even with some feature to coalesce posts from the same user. I don't think it is a good idea to attempt bridging communication media that function differently. I think it's at least worth trying. If it works, then boom we have solved the Discord problem. I don't think it would be that hard to overcome either. "If user sends two messages in a row before [however long the timer is here], then delete and don't send" Posted by Mr. Ztardust I'm not really sure if it might be a good idea to archive the off-topic forums though, there will be always people that might find useful information even in those Archive != delete; it would stay as read-only forum. _________________________ Here's my MvL Hacking thread Consider joining the NSMB DS Hacking Discord Server! Also, be sure to check out the new wiki! #HakingNoMore |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:43 pm
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この記号は… 解読できないよ…
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I'm thinking of closing everything in the general forums aside from General Chat. Sometimes on boards you can have slow, lengthy conversations in the form of wall o'text the likes of which are more common on Kuribo64.
Posted by Arisotura for the rest, I don't have much to say. I think, if Thierry feels comfortable with sysadmin/PHP/etc stuff, it might be worth asking Dirbaio to give them the keys, seeing as Dirbaio isn't very active at all. I can manage. I suppose I'll try to send an email to Dirbaio, or find them on Git. Dunno if they would be open to the idea at all though, since they never gave you (or As for the Discord bridge, if it's just an automated user it shouldn't be complicated to setup but it might look weird. |
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Posted on 08-19-24, 09:47 pm
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Super Koopa That MvL Hacker Karma: 1654 Posts: 820/831 Since: 04-11-15 |
Posted by Thierry I'm thinking of closing everything in the general forums aside from General Chat. Sometimes on boards you can have slow, lengthy conversations in the form of wall o'text the likes of which are more common on Kuribo64. Sounds good Posted by Thierry As for the Discord bridge, if it's just an automated user it shouldn't be complicated to setup but it might look weird. "We'll get there when we get there" _________________________ Here's my MvL Hacking thread Consider joining the NSMB DS Hacking Discord Server! Also, be sure to check out the new wiki! #HakingNoMore |
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Posted on 08-20-24, 12:39 am
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Posted by Thierry Posted by IllyCat The old names are really confusing for code hackers, when I started code hacking a few years ago it took me ages to find the correct classes due to me being use to the old names. Most of the new naming conventions make more sense and are relevent to morden documentation of nsmb, hence why I prefer them Which names in particular were tripping you up? I can only think of the sprite/actor issue, I don't know much about anything else.. The ones I can remember are Sprite, sprite data sprite set, actor, stage acotor, object bank, object settings, stage entity, this shit was nearly as confusing as my gender for me |
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Posted on 08-20-24, 12:53 am (rev. 2 by Thierry on 08-20-24, 04:25 am)
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この記号は… 解読できないよ…
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Okay yeah that's bad, there's even duplicates.
I'll try to make whatever documentation I write translate well into the currently used terms. Speaking of, are you all (as in the ppl on the server) roughly in agreement when it comes to this terminology you mentioned? Code hacks, stage Actor, stage Object, stage Tile, Actor settings, Object bank, Tile type, Foreground/Background? Edit: Also, what about sound sets, should they keep their current name? They used to match with 'sprite sets' but with the name changes they no longer do. They cannot be called 'sound banks' due to sbnk files already using the name. |
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Posted on 08-20-24, 06:35 am
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 Fire SnakeEugene  Karma: 3805 Posts: 1136/1156 Since: 11-29-11 |
I don't really get why there's Actor/Object and Stage Actor/Object. The stage ones are those "shell" ones, but I can't make that up out of the name.
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Posted on 08-20-24, 07:56 am
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Posted by KingYoshi I don't really get why there's Actor/Object and Stage Actor/Object. The stage ones are those "shell" ones, but I can't make that up out of the name. Actors and scenes both have object ids while stage actors have object ids but can also be placed in a level, thats the main diffrance |