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Posted on 07-20-16, 03:42 pm (rev. 1 by mico on 07-20-16, 04:10 pm)
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Posted by skawo
Truthfully, I don't much care at all what you'll do, I just wanted to see if you'd admit to your source of, ah, inspiration.

But, too bad.


how about not arguing anymore? and in any case I was inspired only by the worlds and the lower screen
then the levels are completely different levels
Posted on 07-20-16, 05:16 pm
in business again


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breaking your ping-pong chain~


anyway, copycatting is frowned upon, just throwing that in, not accusing anybody
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Posted on 07-20-16, 05:52 pm
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I think some of the resources he used were actually free to use (or whatever) and thus he didn't get what you meant when you said he copied stuff.



Dunno about the bottom background. You better copyright it before I find the source.


Top background and everything else is a copy of Nintendo. You'll get arrested.
Posted on 07-20-16, 06:03 pm (rev. 2 by ImageBot on 11-21-16, 03:21 am)


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he didn't get what you meant when you said he copied stuff

Indeed? Nothing strikes you as slightly similar between these?

Posted on 07-20-16, 06:07 pm (rev. 1 by ImageBot on 11-21-16, 03:21 am)
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Posted by skawo
he didn't get what you meant when you said he copied stuff

Indeed? Nothing strikes you as slightly familiar between these?




hypernova gave me permission to use that thing on the top screen,
and in any case I had given credit, but like a fool I have deleted everything and I forgot to re-enter credit

and anyway this is my true background
Posted on 07-20-16, 08:26 pm (rev. 1 by ImageBot on 11-21-16, 03:21 am)
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I was going to say something similar. Now I am not trying to be offensive but it feels like you saw footage of NewerSMBDS and felt like copying it. Almost all the words are similar:

And Now look at your own hack:

Only one world is changed but the rest are similar to NewerDS's Worlds.
Also many levels also have the same theme. I'd be fine if it is just for one world, but 7 or 8 of them!?

1-Castle:


This looks almost the same as the World 1 Castle in Newer DS (Slightly Different and with probably my BG)
Even the name isn't good. The logo also looks like you slapped a word on it and stretched it. Now the hack could be good, but the similarities are there. Inspriation is fine, but it looks more like a copy rather than a homage.
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Posted on 07-20-16, 08:33 pm (rev. 2 by ImageBot on 11-21-16, 03:21 am)
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I was going to say something similar. Now I am not trying to be offensive but it feels like you saw footage of NewerSMBDS and felt like copying it. Almost all the words are similar:

And Now look at your own hack:

Only one world is changed but the rest are similar to NewerDS's Worlds.
Also many levels also have the same theme. I'd be fine if it is just for one world, but 7 or 8 of them!?

1-Castle:


This looks almost the same as the World 1 Castle in Newer DS (Slightly Different and with probably my BG)
Even the name isn't good. The logo also looks like you slapped a word on it and stretched it. Now the hack could be good, but the similarities are there. Inspriation is fine, but it looks more like a copy rather than a homage.





then it is not a copy, I liked these worlds and thus the castle in the world one must be created as well as I, but I'm not copying because it would not make sense to do a hack equal to another.




however, I decided to change the world so that the world choose between 4:

Sakura village

mushroom peaks

crystal caves

other...

Posted on 07-20-16, 09:04 pm
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I prefer Sakura village.
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Posted on 07-21-16, 12:33 am (rev. 2 by shibboleet on 07-21-16, 12:34 am)
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The World 1 and 8 icons look awfully familiar to NerDS.

but to be honest, it's not exactly wrong to use the same icon. Same with the world name.

You can't copyright a simple world name. So he can still use the name he gave to that world. It's not the best idea, but it's not illegal.
Posted on 07-21-16, 12:39 am


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Technically he could take Newer DS whole and claim as his, and I couldn't legally do anything about it, which makes that point a bit moot
Posted on 07-21-16, 12:41 am
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But the icons aren't exactly the same, either. Can't do anything about that.

However if the work is legit the same exact thing, down to every single byte, sure. You can claim plagiarism. But this case is just unoriginality.
Posted on 07-21-16, 12:46 am (rev. 2 by  skawo on 07-21-16, 12:48 am)


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I'd disagree; if you write something (let's say an essay for school for an example) by essentially rewriting some other, original work, while keeping the ideas and content the same, even if every single word inside is different and yours, it still counts as plagiarism.

I had a friend who failed a class like that.

And while this perhaps doesn't escalate to that level, his insistence that everything is his original idea does make what I wouldn't care about at all into something that slightly annoys me.
Posted on 07-21-16, 01:47 am
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Skawo is right. Many aspects of this hack directly indicate imitation of pretty much anything remotely related to Newer such as world themes, graphics and various assets, even the title has 'Newer' in it.

Nobody's saying that you can't use these assets, and certainly not if you are modifying the material, but to claim that your work is original just because you put a slight bit of work into it to make it marginally different is a lie.

This hack is a blatant imitation of Newer. You simply can't deny that.
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Posted on 07-21-16, 03:19 am
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Posted by mico
then it is not a copy, I liked these worlds and thus the castle in the world one must be created as well as I, but I'm not copying because it would not make sense to do a hack equal to another.

You may not be blatantly copying every single block in the game, but erm, 70% of your hack seems almost (or exactly) identicaly to Newer DS.


Let's say I make a copy of a hack by replicating all the graphics myself.

No matter how much effort I put into it, it doesn't make it mine. Even if I tweak things here and there, I cannot claim it as my own.


It may be fine if you at least assume it's not yours.
Posted on 07-21-16, 04:12 am
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Guys what the hell. Stop ranting about how unoriginal and copied that hack is. That does exactly nothing productive. Everyone knows that already.
So either you do something against it (talking to mico in private, closing the thread, what do I know?) or just stop doing anything.
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Posted on 07-21-16, 05:55 am
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Posted by ray
Guys what the hell. Stop ranting about how unoriginal and copied that hack is. That does exactly nothing productive. Everyone knows that already.
So either you do something against it (talking to mico in private, closing the thread, what do I know?) or just stop doing anything.


Backseat moderating?

I agree, however. This has gone on long enough.
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Posted on 07-21-16, 11:06 am (rev. 2 by ImageBot on 11-21-16, 03:21 am)
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I have changed the world 4 the world 6
4 the world will be the cherry village for the world instead of 6 will be located in space but in that same world there will be the Planet of the stars




Posted on 07-21-16, 03:04 pm (rev. 1 by  Luluca on 07-21-16, 03:06 pm)
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I'm giving a cheat if it was shamelessly copied, based, inspired or borned from.

Like said Lavoisier, On the Nature nothing is created, nothing is destroyed, everything is transformed copied and pasted!

Do you people know what? If one who promises to do things but not launch the rocket and just show the plans, will fast be passed to background from who is giving the result to the world. And the only way, after this happen, is the resentful sticking the other runner.

I myself did it in this post. I'm a bad girl. Oh... Somebody lock me in the jail.

But is not is my concern.

My really question is...
After all, where is the download link??


Or it will be another skawo's no demo game?
Posted on 07-21-16, 04:24 pm
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Posted by Luluca

I'm giving a cheat if it was shamelessly copied, based, inspired or borned from.

Like said Lavoisier, On the Nature nothing is created, nothing is destroyed, everything is transformed copied and pasted!

Do you people know what? If one who promises to do things but not launch the rocket and just show the plans, will fast be passed to background from who is giving the result to the world. And the only way, after this happen, is the resentful sticking the other runner.

I myself did it in this post. I'm a bad girl. Oh... Somebody lock me in the jail.

But is not is my concern.

My really question is...
After all, where is the download link??


Or it will be another skawo's no demo game?


for now nothing demo
Posted on 07-21-16, 06:18 pm (rev. 1 by shibboleet on 07-21-16, 06:19 pm)
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Posted by ray
Guys what the hell. Stop ranting about how unoriginal and copied that hack is. That does exactly nothing productive. Everyone knows that already.
So either you do something against it (talking to mico in private, closing the thread, what do I know?) or just stop doing anything.

hold on, so telling somebody that it's unoriginal to use something that looks like another hack's assets is not productive, or constructive criticism? Don't you think that's a hint at "please don't do that, try to come up with something original"? What world do you live in?
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