The NSMB Hacking Domain » Event Loopers

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Hiccup	Posted on 10-18-14, 11:39 am (rev. 7 by Hiccup on 10-19-14, 08:23 am) Hi. Link ID: 39361 +0
Birdo Karma: 2754 Posts: 1085/2091 Since: 06-26-11	[nuked]

Freeze	Posted on 10-18-14, 01:04 pm Hi. Link ID: 39362 +0
Karma: 3752 Posts: 2051/2112 Since: 06-28-11	Well, the problem is that I and ray just reused the mechanism from NSHB. We can't explain anything because some smartass changed the already known sprite data that luckwii found out into "Unknown".

Hiccup	Posted on 10-18-14, 01:25 pm (rev. 6 by Hiccup on 10-19-14, 08:26 am) Hi. Link ID: 39363 +0
Birdo Karma: 2754 Posts: 1086/2091 Since: 06-26-11	Posted by Freeze We can't explain anything because [Hiccup] changed the already known sprite data that luckwii found out into "Unknown". You can, I don't see how that stops you.

Freeze	Posted on 10-19-14, 08:27 am (rev. 1 by Freeze on 10-19-14, 08:27 am) Hi. Link ID: 39375 +1
Karma: 3752 Posts: 2052/2112 Since: 06-28-11	If it helps, I will copy the sprites we used here. Just put them like this in your level. NSMBeClip\|SPR:32:64:168:000100FF0000:SPR:33:64:286:010228000000:SPR:34:64:167:020228100020:SPR:32:71:259:02000000040A:ZON:512:1088:32:48:0\| When entering Zone 0, the mechanism will start to loop. Every once in a while the poison water will rise and lower again. Change this machanism to meet your needs.

Hiccup	Posted on 10-19-14, 09:09 am (rev. 1 by Hiccup on 10-19-14, 09:16 am) Hi. Link ID: 39376 +0
Birdo Karma: 2754 Posts: 1087/2091 Since: 06-26-11	Thanks for the clip. I'm interested in the workings of it though; but I do not mind if you cannot understand it (as I don't) .

Freeze	Posted on 10-19-14, 09:59 am Hi. Link ID: 39378 +0
Karma: 3752 Posts: 2053/2112 Since: 06-28-11	Well as I said: Posted by Freeze We can't explain anything I really can't explain the working of the loop, because some relevant sprite data is marked as "Unknown" now. Without it, the loop won't work as expected. And that is what stops me to explain it. Sorry.

ray

Posted on 10-19-14, 10:05 am (rev. 1 by

ray on 10-19-14, 10:06 am)

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Roy Koopa

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Posted by Hiccup

Posted by Freeze

We can't explain anything because [Hiccup] changed the already known sprite data that luckwii found out into "Unknown".

You can, I don't see how that stops you.

The settings that are supposed to be known aren't even VISISBLE in the current sprite data. We had to copy it from NSHB because the sprite data used shows an empty dropdown box for the settings. Those settings don't exist anymore.
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Hiccup	Posted on 10-19-14, 10:54 am (rev. 3 by Hiccup on 10-20-14, 10:44 am) Hi. Link ID: 39381 +0
Birdo Karma: 2754 Posts: 1088/2091 Since: 06-26-11	Can't you edit the online sprite database? I mean have you even looked at it now?

ray	Posted on 10-19-14, 12:31 pm Hi. Link ID: 39382 +2
Roy Koopa Karma: 4011 Posts: 2666/2722 Since: 06-26-11	Of course I have looked at it, but we don't know the original sprite data from luckwii anymore. The current sprite data is just crap. _________________________ See a lots of creative DS Hacking here If you want to support me, you might check out my Patreon Page : )

gridatttack	Posted on 10-19-14, 07:53 pm (rev. 2 by gridatttack on 10-19-14, 07:55 pm) Hi. Link ID: 39388 +0
Birdo Karma: 3305 Posts: 1692/2024 Since: 06-28-11	I wonder if all the changes are stored in the DB, that way we could see past revisions. EDIT: http://nsmbhd.net/spritedbchanges/168/?rev=1 Welp, seems not _________________________

Freeze	Posted on 10-19-14, 08:00 pm Hi. Link ID: 39391 +0
Karma: 3752 Posts: 2054/2112 Since: 06-28-11	Probably somebody has got an old revision on his/her PC, where an old spritedata.xml is still saved.

Piranhaplant	Posted on 10-20-14, 12:52 am Hi. Link ID: 39392 +0
Fuzzy Full mod Karma: 1183 Posts: 764/785 Since: 06-28-11	Posted by Freeze Probably somebody has got an old revision on his/her PC, where an old spritedata.xml is still saved. Here's an old version I had lying around from 10/20/2013. I dunno what you're looking for but maybe it's in there. spritedata.xml Layout design by ~alder-sketch

Hiccup

Posted on 10-20-14, 10:47 am (rev. 1 by

Hiccup on 10-20-14, 11:08 am)

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Birdo

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Posted by pirahnaplant's old spritedta.xml

Event Controller - Chainer (If X, Do Y)

This sprite does not count through IDs like the 286 does. It only uses the input ID to activate the output ID. From there you can have the output activate when the input is activated, and then output again the opposite on/off after the timer. Or you can set it so the output will not activate at the same time as the input, it waits the set time, and then activates the output . I guess this is used for sprites like the 168 where they ran out of nybbles to set a time function. Or for when you want to activate two sprites by only hitting one switch...Or simply to delay an ID from being sent out.

<field id="2-3" notes="" values="" name="Target Event ID" type="value"/>
<field id="0-1" notes="" values="" name="Triggering Event ID" type="value"/>
<field id="10" notes="" values="0=Single Use,1=Multi Use,2=Unknown???" name="usage Mode" type="list"/>
<field id="7" notes="Disables the sprite" values="" name="Does Nothing" type="checkbox"/>
<field id="6" notes="" values="" name="???" type="value"/>
<field id="11" notes="" values="0=Activates Target,1=Deactivates Target" name="Switch mode" type="list"/>
<field id="4-5" notes="" values="" name="Activation Delay" type="value"/></sprite>

I'll dig up some old sprite datas when I can.

EDIT:
I guess I should keep an archive of these old ones, if I get enough.

Freeze	Posted on 10-20-14, 11:05 am Hi. Link ID: 39403 +0
Karma: 3752 Posts: 2056/2112 Since: 06-28-11	I probably have a much, MUCH older spritedata.xml on my old laptop too. It is from the time when I and ray worked on the third beta of NSHB. I will have a look at it later.

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