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Posted on 03-01-25, 02:33 pm
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PorcupoNew Super Mario Bros.: Blasting off Again! status: stopped procrastinating Karma: 616 Posts: 175/311 Since: 08-24-24 |
So, for my ROM hack I might use NewerDS as a baserom. Because rotation controllers. Is there anything I should pay extra attention to when hacking Newer (with the NewerDS editor, which I haven't used yet) instead of vanilla New? I will so make a level with rotating cannon pipes!
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Posted on 03-01-25, 04:40 pm
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FlurryUnfortunately, where there is light, there is dark. Where there's a Star, there's a Ztar! Karma: 1063 Posts: 236/273 Since: 02-02-24 |
My biggest recommendation for you to get started is
Don't use Newer DS as a base for your hack Have a nice day
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Posted on 03-01-25, 04:44 pm
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Red ParagoombaJPG64 Karma: 106 Posts: 40/63 Since: 02-03-24 |
Posted by Staryu Trek So, for my ROM hack I might use NewerDS as a baserom. Because rotation controllers. Is there anything I should pay extra attention to when hacking Newer (with the NewerDS editor, which I haven't used yet) instead of vanilla New? I will so make a level with rotating cannon pipes! Dont use newer ds as a base for ur hack since it will be bad, use vanilla instead and join nsmb central _________________________ Check out Sakura SMB discord server: https://discord.com/invite/RPwrYff5m4
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Posted on 03-01-25, 05:04 pm (rev. 1 by Mosquito on 03-01-25, 05:44 pm)
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Karma: 33 Posts: 3/4 Since: 12-17-24 |
So, for my ROM hack I might use NewerDS as a baserom dont. its a bug ridden shitshow and a ton of things are just extremely difficult to use. also promo to nsmb flower journey |
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Posted on 03-01-25, 05:49 pm
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PorcupoNew Super Mario Bros.: Blasting off Again! status: stopped procrastinating Karma: 616 Posts: 176/311 Since: 08-24-24 |
Ah ok, will just use vanilla as a baserom. Wanted to know what I had to prepare for, were I to use Newer as a baserom.
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Posted on 03-01-25, 09:21 pm (rev. 1 by NSMBfanatic26 on 03-01-25, 09:22 pm)
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Karma: 11 Posts: 1/2 Since: 01-07-25 |
Sorry to butt into this conversation but using "Newer DS" as a base for your mod is not bad at all, I mean it does have its disadvantages but if you think it would be better to work with "Newer DS" than with "NSMB" that's fine but if you think the opposite then both "Newer DS" and "NSMB" have their advantages and disadvantages here are some.
well it's just my humble opinion don't take it seriously you are free to use what you feel more comfortable and by the way me and my friend "Ultimate MrL36" are working to improve the level editor for Newer DS created by "Helios" to make it more comfortable to edit Newer DS just that it is not finished yet we will publish it soon. PS: Sorry for my bad english. |
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Posted on 03-01-25, 09:46 pm (rev. 1 by
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PorcupoNew Super Mario Bros.: Blasting off Again! status: stopped procrastinating Karma: 616 Posts: 177/311 Since: 08-24-24 |
Posted by NSMBfanatic26 well it's just my humble opinion don't take it seriously you are free to use what you feel more comfortable and by the way me and my friend "Ultimate MrL36" are working to improve the level editor for Newer DS created by "Helios" to make it more comfortable to edit Newer DS just that it is not finished yet we will publish it soon. PS: Sorry for my bad english. Your English is fine, except for interpunction. So, I will just use vanilla New as my baserom, but maybe if the NewerDS editor you and Ultimate MrL36 are updating, becomes stable and simple enough, I might port my levels over to Newer. If NSMB NMLs can be easily imported into Newer that is, but maybe with the updated NewerDS editor once it releases. Thanks for telling your side of the story too, NSMBfanatic26. I really appreciate it. "To boldly glitch where no one has glitched before" - Staryu Trek Sig background from dreamstime.com Avatar Staryu model from Retromesh (edited) Avatar background from space.com |
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Posted on 03-01-25, 09:57 pm
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MoleGoomba's run the world... Karma: 463 Posts: 299/358 Since: 08-27-20 |
To put it simply, NewerSMB DS is too ambitious to modify. It uses tons of custom code that may look appealing, however is extremely difficult to work with. If you like some of the features used in Newer DS, I recommend extracting the files and porting them over to the original NSMB, as NSMB is a lot easier to work with. Newer DS was coded very specifically to its levels and is extremely difficult to edit because of this. Good luck, feel free to ask any other questions here if you need anything...
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Posted on 03-01-25, 10:05 pm
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PorcupoNew Super Mario Bros.: Blasting off Again! status: stopped procrastinating Karma: 616 Posts: 178/311 Since: 08-24-24 |
So, rotation controllers, are those easy to export to NSMB? That's my main reason I wanted to use Newer as baserom. ![]() And I do have one other interesting question I will ask, but it's in another "To boldly glitch where no one has glitched before" - Staryu Trek Sig background from dreamstime.com Avatar Staryu model from Retromesh (edited) Avatar background from space.com |
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Posted on 03-02-25, 04:41 am
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Nipper PlantI do things sometimes Karma: 1208 Posts: 372/411 Since: 08-07-17 |
Posted by NSMBfanatic26 stuff some of these claims are sorta hard to quantify (like "less development time") or just wrong ("more internal RAM"?). i dunno of a list of differences n changes newer ds made to be aware of, but i will say that modding it makes you more likely to encounter unfamiliar errors that you wouldnt have to worry about when modding vanilla nsmb due to more people being familiar with it. additionally when modding newer you wont be able to apply any additional (or remove existing) code hacks, nor do versions of nsmbe past 5.2 work with it. Posted by Staryu Trek So, rotation controllers, are those easy to export to NSMB? That's my main reason I wanted to use Newer as baserom. ![]() newer ds's source code is public so in theory you could apply the code patch for the rotation controller yourself. however, ive heard people have had trouble applying code from newer and that its code is hard to work with |
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