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Hack co-op in and it'll be cool
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Posted on 06-09-14, 01:07 pm (rev. 1 by  Arisotura on 06-09-14, 01:10 pm)
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So yeah, there is effort being made towards multiplayer hacking, but I'm wondering, is it really worth it?

In my opinion, multiplayer hacking would be cool if co-op was hacked in. Otherwise, well, there's not much material to hack. 5 small levels made for competitive gameplay...

Main difficulty with multiplayer hacking is, you guessed, the unability to test shit in an emulator. I have some ideas to overcome that, but they'd still have to be tried.
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Posted on 06-09-14, 01:19 pm
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Posted by StapleButter
Main difficulty with multiplayer hacking is, you guessed, the unability to test shit in an emulator. I have some ideas to overcome that, but they'd still have to be tried.


Can you tell us more about them?
Posted on 06-09-14, 01:27 pm
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This is kinda offtopic, but fine.


Idea 1: HLE

Basically hijacking calls to Nintendo's wifi API on ARM9 side. Not feasible easily, though. That API relies on callbacks a lot, which complicates matters.


Idea 2: LLE

Doing it the proper way, emulating the DS wifi so two instances of DeSmuME can connect together. DeSmuME is already able to do it to a point, but it can't be used for testing multiplayer.

DeSmuME uses sockets to communicate, which may be too slow given MP requires tight timing. Also, MP uses special features of the DS wifi device that aren't completely documented.
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Posted on 06-09-14, 02:31 pm
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Co-op would be cool. Definitely. (get it? it was unintentional.)

Posted on 06-11-14, 11:53 am (rev. 1 by  Hiccup on 06-11-14, 11:54 am)
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Are there only two people (unlcuding me) that like the VS mode?
Posted on 06-12-14, 05:41 pm
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Posted by StapleButter
Main difficulty with multiplayer hacking is, you guessed, the unability to test shit in an emulator.


Really? That's the biggest difficulty? I'm sure there is a lot of people willing to test the co-op hack if it was ever created.

I thought the biggest difficulty would be getting large sprites to work like bosses etc. or even get the overworld to load.
Posted on 06-13-14, 04:00 pm
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You can't even get to that stage if you don't have two compatible DSs, roms and flashcards. Emulators significantly speed up debugging.
Posted on 06-13-14, 04:49 pm
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I would be glad to co-operate with your project.
I've Modded the VS gamemode before. And also i got 2 DSs so i can always test it.
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Posted on 06-14-14, 01:19 am
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You should totally do it!
Posted on 06-14-14, 01:45 am
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Co-op hacked in would definately be cool, in my opinion.
Posted on 07-16-14, 03:35 am


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Wow, that's the best idea I've heard all day
Posted on 07-16-14, 03:42 am
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That will be 20% cooler if someone can do it.
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