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Posted on 06-03-16, 03:38 am (rev. 1 by  Ndymario on 06-03-16, 05:14 am)
Fuzzy
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Why hello there NSMBHD dweller. If you have clicked on this forum you are probably ether wondering
A)What is Nifi and what is this forum about
B)I know what Nifi is but what is the point of this forum

Well, not to get too technical, The term "Nifi" stands for Nintendo Wifi or, simply, the signal that the Ds uses to play multiplayer weather it be Multi or Single cart, for example in New Super Mario Bros. DS this "Nifi" is used so you can play Mario Vs. Luigi, either Multi cart or Single cart, or also to play multiplayer Minigames, also Multi/Single cart.

So, now you may ask, what is the point of this thread. Well my child , this thread was made because of the rising "popularity" in hacking Mario Vs Luigi. See the problem in hacking Mario vs Luigi is that you Have to Have 2 Nintendo Ds,Dsi,3ds, and you have to have at least 2 flashcards in order to get the best experience from MvL hacking. And because of this no one makes hacks for MvL because they don't have 2 Ds's and 2 flashcards. So, the main point of this thread is to try to reverse engineer Nifi, and make it possible to Emulate Nifi so the Community can play MvL on their PC's/Mac's.

So, why do we need to know about this?

My hope is that, because there are so many talented people that can hack the Ds/Nsmb in this Community that together we can make Nifi emulation possible.

What's in it for us?

The thing you get in return is the fact that I/We/You have changed the Nds Emulation scene forever

This sounds cool, but where do we start?

In my opinion you should start by using No$Gba Developer/Debug edition and start "searching" for an opponent in Mario Vs Luigi. Find what values/addresses/pointers/activators the mode is attached to and just continue from there

I'm just a novice hacker, and alone I couldn't accomplish anything, but with the community's help we can get to the bottom of this mystery and have Nifi emulation Once and For all

I sincerely hope that everyone can lend a hand in this mission, I'm not saying it will be easy, but with the great minds of the community we will concur this opstical that has been holding us back

Best of Luck to us

This has been Ndymario, signing off!

What We/I know
The Local multiplayer uses "wifi" 802.11b and is on channel 13
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Posted on 06-03-16, 04:20 am
Fuzzy
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Nintendo Wifi ran on Nintendo's servers. We could implement a custom server but that would be very hard to do and it's unlikely anyone would spend that kind of time for that.
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Posted on 06-03-16, 05:13 am (rev. 1 by  Ndymario on 06-03-16, 05:15 am)
Fuzzy
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Oh yea we could have a server that uses 802.11b ch13

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Posted on 06-03-16, 08:13 am
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Well there were decated fans of flipnote hatena that they went on to make sudo memo server to continue it: http://www.sudomemo.net/

Maybe ask them how they managed?
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Posted on 06-03-16, 04:10 pm
Fuzzy
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Ok....Nifi is LOCAL WIRELESS. Not wifi. Nifi allows you to play like Mario vs Luigi
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Posted on 06-04-16, 12:42 am
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Nintendo Wifi is what the name suggests, Wifi. Local wireless is just bluetooth I'm pretty sure, which.. is already in the game. Unless I'm misreading what you're trying to say.
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Posted on 06-04-16, 12:45 am
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wrong!


local wireless uses wifi too, it's a modified 802.11 protocol
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Posted on 06-04-16, 02:28 am
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Posted by StapleButter
wrong!


local wireless uses wifi too, it's a modified 802.11 protocol


Really? I never connected my DS to the internet though, because my wifi had some encryption that the DS couldn't handle.

Unless wifi can do other stuff apart from access the internet that I'm not aware of?
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Posted on 06-04-16, 06:49 am
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Posted by cros107
Posted by StapleButter
wrong!


local wireless uses wifi too, it's a modified 802.11 protocol


Really? I never connected my DS to the internet though, because my wifi had some encryption that the DS couldn't handle.

Unless wifi can do other stuff apart from access the internet that I'm not aware of?


Yep StapleButter is correct. The Ds uses 802.11b on ch13. Found this myself using the Packet capture.nds file someone not on NSMBHD made
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Posted on 06-04-16, 09:20 am
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incase it is not already obvious: wifi != wireless internet connection
Posted on 06-04-16, 11:22 am (rev. 2 by  Ndymario on 06-04-16, 11:24 am)
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Yep, and Nintendo decided to use a modded 802.11b on ch13 for local wireless

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Posted on 06-05-16, 09:40 am
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Yep.
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