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Posted on 04-13-13, 03:21 am
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Here, custom titles are automatically given when you reach 200 posts. I believe Dirbaio has said custom titles can be given out manually as well, but a lot of the more active users already have them. 
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Posted on 04-13-13, 03:28 am
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Pikerchu and I could host video playthroughs of the top contest winners on the SMWC youtube channel. Or maybe do an interview with them talking about their level.
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Posted on 04-13-13, 03:37 am
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Also, some things I didn't mention that should probably be rules. - Your level should have a midpoint - Your level should use all three star coins - Your level does not have to use a red coin ring with 8 coins, but if it does you are allowed only one ring + coins. ♪♫♩♬ |
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Posted on 04-13-13, 03:47 am
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Posted by THY Pikerchu and I could host video playthroughs of the top contest winners on the SMWC youtube channel. Or maybe do an interview with them talking about their level. That sounds pretty cool!  (and it sound spretty rewarding too!) Posted by TRS Also, some things I didn't mention that should probably be rules. - Your level should have a midpoint - Your level should use all three star coins - Your level does not have to use a red coin ring with 8 coins, but if it does you are allowed only one ring + coins. I agree on the first 2. But dunno about the third one. (if they spam that sprite too much, that would be reflected on the score, right?  )
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Posted on 04-13-13, 03:50 am
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Technically all three of those rules could be broken but still result in a functional level. We could consider the first two mandatory (not following = DQ), and the other as either a strong suggestion or not mentioned at all. I'm sure someone could make a level that puts 2+ sets of red coins to good use. ♪♫♩♬ |
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Posted on 04-13-13, 04:44 am
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Hello, this is Pikerchu, PR Manager from SMW Central. Just introducing myself now that Aj and THY have. The only thing left to do now that THY mentioned using the Youtube Channel is post about the contest on our Facebook page, try to attract some more entrants.
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Posted on 04-13-13, 04:52 am
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Oh hey there Pikerchu. I was considering posting in your profile.  Anyway, when were you planning on making the next news video? Giving the contest a mention on a video before it actually started (or anytime, really) would be a great way to get attention. Also if Pirahnaplant is serious about his comment, we could increase the prizes to $25/15/5. Also, it doesn't have to be limited to Steam gifts. Amazon egift cards, SMWC donations (for SMWC members), anything viable works. ♪♫♩♬ |
| aj6666 |
Posted on 04-14-13, 03:57 am
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Posted by TRS Anyway, when were you planning on making the next news video? Giving the contest a mention on a video before it actually started (or anytime, really) would be a great way to get attention. Generally we don't announce contests before they start so people won't start working on their entries before they should, but if we don't reveal too many details I suppose announcing the contest around a week before it stars would be good. About the prizes, although it would help to attract more contestants I feel $25/15/5 is too much, $15/10/5 as you mentioned earlier (or $20/10/5 at most, if there are no other prizes), sounds better for me. |
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Posted on 04-14-13, 04:59 am (rev. 2 by
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So here's what I've got so far:
Rules: - Create an NSMB level. Except for the restrictions listed in this post, anything goes. - If you choose, you may work with a partner. - Restrictions: --- You must edit level 1-1. --- Your level must include a midway point. --- Your level must include all three star coins. --- Your level cannot be Kaizo. (?) --- You may only submit one entry. - The following will cause your level to be disqualified: --- Your level does not meet the restrictions above. --- Your level is an obvious joke level. (I shouldn't really have to define joke level, right?) --- Something in your level causes the game to crash. (Note: This should only apply to crashes that are solely the fault of the level designer, and should not apply to general NSMB glitches. This should be reworded.) --- You are found to be working or have worked with more than one partner. Asking for or providing feedback or beta testing does not count as working with someone. Judging: - Entries will be due two months after the start of the contest, due to C3 (a major site event) and being not SMW. - There will be three judges: myself, Dirbaio, and one as-of-yet undecided SMWC member. --- SMWC members can apply to be the third judge by sending in an application, which consists of the potential judge's scoring of a sample level provided in the rules and submissions thread. One judge and one backup judge will be selected this way. --- NSMBHD members can apply as well, to be considered as backup judge in case Dirbaio is unable to judge. - Scoring will be done using the following breakdown. Descriptions of each category will be provided in the rules and submissions thread: --- Level Design: out of 20 --- Appeal: out of 10 --- Functionality: out of 10 - In case of ties for first, second, or third place, the judges as a group will decide which of the tied levels is most deserving of the spot. The chosen level will keep that spot, and the tied level(s) and all entries of lower rank will be moved down a place. - Judges are not allowed to submit entries, but backup judges are. In the event that a backup judge submits a level, then becomes a judge, that level is immediately disqualified. Resources: - Important resources will be linked in the rules and submissions thread. --- NSMBe (editor) --- DeSmuME (emulator) --- NSMBHD's resource and tutorial forums, --- A basics tutorial. Misc: - Prizes --- Monetary prizes will be split $15/10/5/5/5 amongst the top 5 placing entries. --- Prizes in the form of trophies will be distributed to the top 3 placing entries. (Dirbaio has said that image badges are possible, so this can be done on both sites.) Definitely discuss things. Nothing is finalized yet. |
| aj6666 |
Posted on 04-15-13, 01:51 am
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Posted by TRS - Scoring needs to be very much discussed. If this is to be a serious official contest, I believe the scoring breakdown provided in my request will not be sufficient enough. The categories need a more proper definition, as it is right now the difference between enjoyability, creativity and overall are not very clear. Instead I'd propose the following breakdown: 20 points for level design 10 points for appeal 10 points for functionality/overal Posted by TRS - Is providing regular updates necessary for judges or will it ultimately slow them down? - Should judges be secret? I think neither will be necessary. Posted by TRS Resources: - Should this be its own, separate thread or integrated into the rules and submissions thread? Integrated to the rules thread. |
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Posted on 04-15-13, 01:56 am
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Posted by aj6666 The categories need a more proper definition, as it is right now the difference between enjoyability, creativity and overall are not very clear. Instead I'd propose the following breakdown: 20 points for level design 10 points for appeal 10 points for functionality/overall If I may ask, why do you lump functionality with overall? ♪♫♩♬ |
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Posted on 04-15-13, 04:27 pm (rev. 1 by
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Posted by TRS - Should judges be secret? I think they should be secret, unless you want people whining arround like this: Posted by Nobody. This is just an example. Why do you deduct my points by 2 points for this. For me everything worked fine. Also in my opinion this does not look bad at all. I hate you! There can easily start battles then.  
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Posted on 04-15-13, 09:43 pm
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That actually brings up a fairly good point: are points even necessary? The rating system used in the recent vanilla contest was introduced to reduce the amount of complaining over results and it worked like a charm.
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Posted on 04-16-13, 05:24 am (rev. 1 by aj6666 on 04-16-13, 05:26 am)
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Posted by TRS If I may ask, why do you lump functionality with overall? What I meant was "10 points for functionality or overall" (having only one of them as a third category), I wasn't lumping them. Posted by Freeze Posted by TRS - Should judges be secret? I think they should be secret, unless you want people whining arround like this: Posted by Nobody. This is just an example. Why do you deduct my points by 2 points for this. For me everything worked fine. Also in my opinion this does not look bad at all. I hate you! There can easily start battles then. I think it's fair for the participants to know who played and judged their entries. Also, they can still complain about getting a low score even if the judges are secret. Posted by TRS That actually brings up a fairly good point: are points even necessary? The rating system used in the recent vanilla contest was introduced to reduce the amount of complaining over results and it worked like a charm. This system is good, but it's harder to apply than the numeric ratings since your verdict can be opinionated if you don't have enough level design experience. If you think you will be able to judge the entries with this system without committing mistakes, then go ahead, but I'd still suggest the classic format. Speaking of judges, Dirbaio said earlier in this thread he was interested in judging, so if he's still willing to do this we already have two of three judges. About the SMW Central judge, either me, THY or Pikerchu could fill in the spot if nobody else wants to. |
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Posted on 04-16-13, 05:29 am
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Posted by aj6666 Speaking of judges, Dirbaio said earlier in this thread he was interested in judging, so if he's still willing to do this we already have two of three judges. About the SMW Central judge, either me, THY or Pikerchu could fill in the spot if nobody else wants to. I'll message Dirbaio about that and see it he's still interested. But the real question is how to ask people if they want to judge before the contest is started. I assume you haven't replied in the request thread because it's supposed to be a secret. ♪♫♩♬ |
| aj6666 |
Posted on 04-17-13, 03:34 am
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Well, we can do something similar to what was done in the 2010 VLDC and ask for judges in the rules thread. My idea is to mention we already have two judges and we would like to have a third one from the central. Since the contest will be around for two months, that's enough time for someone to show up, and if nobody does, myself or one of the PR mods can do it.
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Posted on 04-17-13, 04:12 am (rev. 1 by
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This post has been edited with the suggestions given so far.
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Posted on 04-17-13, 03:56 pm
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Posted by aj6666 I think it's fair for the participants to know who played and judged their entries. Also, they can still complain about getting a low score even if the judges are secret. Yeah, but they should not know WHO gave them the bad rating. This way they can complain, but will never know, who gave them the bad rating. They can't hate that person then.
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Posted on 04-18-13, 12:56 am
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The thing with secret judges in SMWC contest is that they're revealed in the results thread. Even if we kept the judges secret while they're judging, any potential complaints will still happen afterward for this reason.
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| aj6666 |
Posted on 04-19-13, 12:27 am
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I showed this to Pikerchu and THY and we all agreed the rules were fine. Now we just need to chose a date so we can get this started. Pikerchu and THY will help us to promote the contest, they will mention the contest during their next news post and they will be interviewing the winners. |